114 Creds - Leadership

i am very glad you are right here and once more comfortable holidays so let me inform you just a little bit about our presentation as we speak and our speaker dr eric ostrowski is right here and one of many issues i recognize about his analysis is he has targeted on the distinctions between particular person teaching and group teaching and that there are nuances that we have to be taking note of as credential coaches so he will speak about going past the dyad of teaching and stepping into completely different approaches that we have to be paying are protecting consciousness on as we work with our shoppers just a little bit about him he was in cohort 12 with the evidence-based teaching program and he is additionally a graduate he acquired his phd at fielding and organizational programs and alter he began his personal firm referred to as verve teaching and he’s really instructing in a pair completely different graduate stage applications he’s on the school at college of pennsylvania and he is at the moment growing uh content material teaching content material curriculum for assumption college and uh he makes a speciality of teams particularly inside entrepreneurial companies so i am delighted he is right here and eric i will go forward and switch it over to you now all proper nice thanks thanks um boy you probably did such an ideal uh beautiful introduction for me that i i haven’t got to say any of that stuff now about myself which is very nice i would reasonably simply transfer on um so uh i believed it is likely to be enjoyable tonight for us to speak uh idea for a short while and geek out a bit on idea i hope you are all okay with that i do know it isn’t everybody’s thought of a enjoyable time however it’s mine i occur to essentially love idea and i really like what we get to see once we look by way of the lenses of various theories at our teaching observe i like to see how completely different theories can illuminate complicated phenomenon you already know and actually assist us perceive uh what we’re doing the experiences which are unfolding for us in our teaching work so i believed it is likely to be enjoyable to try this tonight however to talk about peer group teaching as a result of it is one thing that has grown in recognition over the previous few years um however it hasn’t acquired a complete lot of consideration uh from researchers um and there is not a complete lot about it within the literature so it is it is form of uh you already know it is rising however there’s not a complete lot on the market and that makes it much more vital for us as evidence-based practitioners or as after they would say knowledge-based practitioners to attract these connections between what we’re doing on the market and the foundational information that may assist us perceive it higher and illuminate the complicated issues that unfold um you see right here so let me simply begin my share my display right here after which we’ll get going one factor that kerry didn’t share is that i did my dissertation analysis on peer group teaching with entrepreneurs and in case you’re serious about studying extra about that i am not going to speak that a lot about my analysis tonight however there’s this actually cool e-book that put out it was put up by feeling in case you’re serious about checking it out i’ve a chapter in there with my analysis however tonight we’ll speak about three completely different views on peer group teaching the primary is aim targeted after which analytic after which narrative collaborative these are three completely different theoretical approaches to look group teaching and what i would like to perform with this session is to form of look with you and discover um you already know what does it appear to be once we look by way of these completely different lenses at peer group teaching what might what can these completely different lenses reveal about this sort of observe this distinctive setting for teaching and what foundational information do we have to find out about with the intention to do peer group teaching from you already know this these views what are the teaching ranges the strategies the issues we really do as coaches within the teaching session that type of come out of those completely different theoretical views after which some consciousness of teaching context i will discuss just a little bit about how the teaching context might help us determine what is likely to be a very good method for a selected group and what foundational information is likely to be most related to that group all proper so first we’ll agree on a definition right here as a result of group teaching we begin to speak about group teaching it is just a little confused on the market within the literature world there are plenty of completely different definitions of group teaching some individuals say group teaching after they’re actually speaking about staff teaching some individuals say staff teaching after they’re actually speaking about group teaching it is only a huge confusion so to start out us off right here i wish to attempt to take a stab at a definition for peer group teaching which i see as the appliance of teaching rules to small teams of peer colleagues and that is one thing that’s performed throughout a number of periods so it unfolds over time and that is to permit for a number of cycles of motion reflection and studying and alter proper so it is it may well’t occur in a single session it is one thing that unfolds over time as individuals exit on the planet and take motion and study from their actions after which come again into the group often facilitated by a talented skilled um one factor that distinguishes this sort of teaching is that the group members often don’t have any affiliation exterior of the teaching group itself so not like in staff teaching the place you already know your group members are a part of a staff and doubtless work with one another exterior of the teaching in this sort of teaching the group members do not see one another exterior of the teaching group itself they usually’ll work collectively they may come from completely different organizations or completely different useful areas inside the similar group and the main target as a substitute of staff teaching the place the main target is often on a shared aim the main target in peer group teaching is on particular person studying and objectives and people may very well be private in nature or organizational relying on the context so that is the definition we’ll work off of tonight for peer group teaching uh that is additionally this sort of teaching has many names in case you look in case you look out within the books and the research and the articles uh peer group teaching unaffiliated group teaching as a result of the members aren’t affiliated with one another exterior of the teaching group studying group teaching is what christine thornton calls it and cohort teaching is a time period that plenty of organizations use to speak about this this sort of teaching they’re all speaking about mainly the identical factor they may have completely different variations in method however they’re speaking about teams small teams of people that come collectively have interaction the companies of the coach to you already know additional their very own objectives and studying but in addition to be within the form of construction of accountability that the group supplies so within organizations a lot of these teams could be actually useful they might help assist peer studying and you already know sharing data all through a corporation they’re typically price efficient in comparison with one-on-one one-on-one teaching they might help develop relationships throughout the group of breaking down silos and getting individuals speaking to one another from completely different areas of the identical firm i might help individuals develop a standard language for speaking about challenges and issues they usually might help individuals develop sturdy modifications in habits these are modifications that outlast the teaching group itself they might help managers and leaders develop teaching expertise as a result of they’re participating in teaching with one another they’re studying the abilities which then type of cascades right down to their uh experiences after which additionally these teams type of have a bunch of psychological advantages it is simply the advantages of belonging to a bunch that is that is secure and that’s devoted to studying and progress and so i am going to speak about just a little little bit of these afterward the psychological advantages so our three um theories the three theoretical type of approaches right here that we’ll discover are aim targeted analytic and narrative collaborative i will clarify what every of those are going to undergo each and speak about them just a little bit however i need you to know these are usually not the one three lenses we are able to look by way of to know peer group teaching we are able to we are able to look by way of plenty of completely different lenses however these three have some assist within the literature there’s been some analysis there are some books there are some supplies some sources so in case you’re serious about these and also you’re serious about enjoying with this sort of observe i can level you towards towards sources you may study extra so the aim targeted method right here we’ll take a look at this mannequin referred to as group from browning grant it is primarily based on the develop mannequin from whitmore develop if you have not heard of it’s aim actuality choices and manner ahead so it is a actually widespread teaching mannequin that is utilized in one-on-one teaching or that has been utilized in one-on-one teaching fairly a bit however on this case for the group we drop a w and we add a u for understanding others in a p for performing and this mannequin pulls from aim idea from studying idea and from group dialogue to the gro as soon as once more aim actuality choices and the aim you already know within that group teaching session every particular person president goes to find out the main target of the teaching for them their objectives for that session what do they wish to obtain in that session actuality is exploring their present scenario in relation to the aim proper which units up a pleasant um a pleasant little dissonance proper just a little little bit of pressure between what they wish to the place they wish to be and the place they’re at times choices figuring out and obsessing assessing choices is about you already know actually figuring out these completely different paths ahead methods they may transfer so all of that stays the identical that is the that is these are the steps you’d absorb one-on-one teaching it is the identical in peer group teaching however then we transfer into understanding others and the main target right here in understanding others is about discovering programs stage options to particular person challenges that occurs when you may successfully type of have interaction the generative capability of the group proper and form of faucet into the collective intelligence of the group if you are able to do that and unpack that then you can begin to make use of that knowledge that collective knowledge of the group and intention it at particular person challenges proper assist people go to work on their objectives utilizing that collective understanding and there are two you see right here that is not working for some cause there we go two completely different distinctions that brown and grant draw from after they speak about understanding others the primary is generative dialogue as described by otto sharma and sharma talked about two issues right here that which are current in a generative dialogue one is primacy of the entire which suggests mainly that we’re taking a look at that group as complete we’re taking a look at what comes out of that assemble the collectivity of the group versus the elements of the group after which the second a part of the enactment of rising futures which which suggests mainly that is future primarily based work we’re trying ahead we’re taking a look at desired futures and the actions it would take to carry these futures forth so when this stuff are current that is what sharma means by regenerative dialogue the type of dialogue that may actually faucet into the group’s collective intelligence um the second precept right here is the excellence between dialogue and dialogue this was type of first highlighted by isaacs after which peter sengay type of picked up on this and made it widespread however dialogue includes the suspension of views opinions and defensive routines dialogue then again form of has individuals get extra embedded of their uh views and opinions it turns into a little bit of a tug of warfare between views and opinions dialogue in isaac’s view requires us to truly take these views these opinions these defensive routines and and droop them which suggests not suppress them not cover them not step over them not faux they are not there however droop them up in entrance of us for examination so you may see how that is likely to be difficult the group setting for individuals to to be so trustworthy and open about their views their opinions their routines to be prepared to see themselves like that’s tough proper in a bunch setting in order that’s one of many obligations of the coach in peer group teaching is to uh to offer that stage of security to make it okay to try this and to carry the house of dialogue so individuals can really do this uh dialogue is the you already know the movement of thought and that means it is participation in that movement which requires plenty of listening and openness dialogue sometimes does not require as a lot listening and openness on this on this view as a result of it is extra about arguing to your opinion for the for the rightness the legitimacy of your opinion all proper in order that’s understanding others and that is what the group would work on within the understanding others part within the performing part that is primarily based uh loosely on tuckman’s work on the developmental phases of teams however actually the purpose right here is to concentrate on motion design and implementation so a bunch would take a look at the person actions in addition to any group stage actions actions that may be taken contained in the teaching session in addition to exterior so a bunch member for instance would possibly wish to attempt experimenting with a selected habits within the group and get suggestions from their their friends proper in order that’s after which exterior they may wish to take that habits out and you already know attempt it at work or do one thing else readability and transparency are actually vital right here as a result of the group must know precisely what every group member is saying they will do proper cannot maintain somebody accountable for his or her dedication if you do not know what they’re planning to take action part of this must be and the coach might help with this ensuring that these commitments are clear and clear after which as soon as you’ve got carried out that this form of you already know i discussed the stress earlier than that cognitive dissonance of you already know making promise after which fulfilling it so this occurs with these these actions that individuals decide to and the group type of holds that pressure proper the group is holding the accountability for the group member of the person who makes a dedication so you may have this excellent um type of dissonance intention there that is simply desirous to get resolved and it may be very motivating a number of the individuals in in my analysis talked about uh this precise factor that they’d expertise this form of strain to get one thing carried out as a result of they instructed the group they have been going to do it they usually do not wish to present themselves they do not wish to present up within the group once more until they’ve carried out what they mentioned they have been going to do okay in order that’s performing then they’ve two extra letters r and e which stand for evaluation and analysis of the motion steps that individuals dedicated to so initially of the following session after individuals have gone off into their lives and brought the actions they took there’s um a possibility to evaluation these actions and to speak in regards to the studying that comes out of them and the aim right here is to combine single double and triple loop studying that comes out of these actions in case you’re not acquainted with these loops of studying single loop studying is informational information it is selecting up a brand new um a brand new truth a brand new tip incorporating new information double loop studying is about critically reflecting by yourself values your individual beliefs your individual assumptions and altering them altering your psychological fashions making a change on that stage after which hargrove took about talked about triple loop studying which is about precise modifications to 1’s sense of self you already know their conception of who they’re and their manner of being on the planet you will see right here that on a few of my slides i’ve acquired the names in orange and that is to attract your consideration to the theorists who’re chargeable for uh you already know for sourcing these concepts in case you wish to study extra you may examine them out uh okay so i feel that is most likely the primary place the place i would prefer to take a quick pause and simply see if there are any questions brewing any questions on this group method the aim targeted method that i can reply now i do not see any questions but within the chat field and that i can be trustworthy my system shut me down and booted me out and that i got here again so um i undoubtedly invite anybody who’s sitting in a query to select your self off you and allow us to hear it hello i i’ve a query okay this that is uh bernadette howdy eric hello bernadette good to see you good to listen to your voice okay let me let me allow you to even see me guys howdy all people um he mentioned you mentioned two issues that um i am in search of clarification as a result of i had this considerably contentious dialogue with anyone that we have been attempting to co-write an article and we have been speaking about working with teams and we weren’t on the identical web page with the with the definition so might you please make clear for me one thing you mentioned that is such a delicate nuance possibly not so delicate you mentioned that the group typically are usually not affiliated exterior of the group in group members and then you definately additionally mentioned that one of many advantages is that you could develop relation the group can develop relationships throughout a corporation yeah so is it each and they are often utterly unaffiliated or they are often inside the similar group yeah that nice query i like that um yeah so sometimes in this sort of group teaching uh they’d don’t have any direct affiliation in different phrases they would not work collectively frequently and their relationships can be bounded by the teaching engagement itself proper in order that they they would not essentially know one another exterior of the teaching and their solely connection can be by way of the teaching group in some organizations you already know it is they’re large enough the place individuals could be far sufficient aside to probably not have any interplay or possibly they’ve some interplay however probably not you already know any uh any direct interplay they are not working with one another frequently however they will nonetheless be below the identical organizational umbrella to allow them to in that sense they will share an affiliation however they are not working collectively okay that is type of what i believed you have been going to say however that is nice having motion within the horse’s mouth anyone else i feel constructing on this christie requested is it vital for members of the group to don’t have any affiliation exterior the group i feel you might need touched on that however i feel the no is form of the query yeah yeah so i feel you already know the no is just a little sticky proper i imply what we’re fascinated by right here and the explanation why it is vital is as a result of if they’ve a robust affiliation in the event that they work collectively frequently you may have a number of the energy dynamics that come from that you simply play you then carry the organizational politics into it you may have um you already know shortage and arguments over sources you may have doubtlessly hierarchical relationships that may enter into the the engagement what we’re attempting to do in this sort of teaching is push that out you already know to to isolate these issues and take away them from this setting in order that we’re targeted on equals friends who’re equals on this atmosphere who have no of that baggage coming in they may develop it as soon as they’re there however then however then that is a part of the work we’ll do as a bunch collectively proper however they are not bringing in that that historical past from exterior so the no you already know it does not must be completely none in any respect as a result of they will they will work for a similar group possibly they cross paths or know one another you already know however they however you’d must watch out to keep away from that sort of energy dynamic that comes from a better relationship i hope that is a ok rationalization that was nice eric thanks all proper positive all proper i am gonna go forward and transfer on right here however i’ll pause once more in just a little bit for extra questions thanks for these of you who’re courageous sufficient to ask all proper so our subsequent perspective is the analytic perspective there are um a number of completely different individuals on the market who’ve talked about peer group teaching from by way of an analytic lens um custodies have has printed lots on this uh ward has labored with guts various as properly after which christine thornton is the one which i am pulling from right here on this presentation as a result of i actually like her e-book she she makes this attitude accessible and he or she i feel is absolutely good at serving to individuals who wish to get into this sort of work perceive what they should to try this and to begin to make these connections between observe and foundational information that may assist unpack this teaching atmosphere so i am going to i am going to present you a listing of references on the finish and that i can present you that e-book in case you’re serious about seeing it that is type of on the crux of this method this concept of balancing security psychological security with the chance that comes from encountering new data so christine thornton referred to as this studying group teaching it is grounded in psychoanalytic idea and particularly two ideas of holding an alternate um i am additionally bringing in a number of the literature and group psychotherapeutic elements right here these are group primarily based elements of studying and alter as a result of they’re actually related in this sort of group and utilizing this this sort of method so holding a lot of you’re most likely acquainted with the time period holding or holding atmosphere that is winnicott uh who described holding because the bond between mom and toddler on this context a holding atmosphere is one that gives that form of nurturing and assist the belief and psychological security that make it okay for individuals to enterprise out and have an interplay with the unknown to come across one thing new and completely different to um to face a problem you already know to their manner of creating sense of the world that the holding atmosphere is what makes that doable and it additionally helps foster connections between group members if the group is properly held individuals um join extra deeply and yeah in order that’s that is holding which type of leads us to the query how does a bunch or how does a coach maintain a bunch proper if that is so vital how does the coach really do that so one factor in this sort of group is to ascertain boundaries early on so confidentiality any floor guidelines about interacting with one another uh the coach has to ascertain these after which keep on high of them you already know be prepared to mark these boundaries because the group evolves preserve bringing individuals again to these boundaries coach can mannequin supportive and inspiring habits that makes individuals really feel secure and supported have interaction with what comes up within the group so um you already know in any sort of group like this there are occasions when tough feelings are going to come back into the the house and reasonably than step on these or ignore them or suppress them or you already know inform individuals to go discuss to their therapists or no matter we might do properly on this mannequin of peer group teaching we might have interaction these issues that come up we might permit them to unfold within the group house and we’d speak about them and assist the group course of them that is very that is very related to past’s thought of containment or containing which has to do with being conscious of adverse feelings digesting them and integrating them so that is what we wish to attempt to do what we wish to attempt to accomplish in this sort of peer group teaching we wish to to simply accept these emotions after they come out and to assist the group digest and combine them and that is a part of what the coach’s position is lastly the the coachees the the group members attend to their work they’re those doing the work the coach attends to the group proper so the coach is creating this container of belief and and type of holding it collectively making it secure for individuals to uh to interact after which within that the group members are doing the precise work they usually’re teaching one another and dealing with one another and pursuing their objectives alternate is the opposite facet of this coin it is the encounter with distinction it is an encounter with new data bateson mentioned information of a distinction proper so the unknown bumping into the unknown this carries threat studying requires threat proper it is a dangerous endeavor it means revealing your self revealing your lack of expertise being recognized by others at a stage that possibly is not all that comfy proper and that is why the holding import holding atmosphere is so vital to offer sufficient security for individuals to flirt with that threat and embrace it when it arises alternate in my very own analysis i talked about alternate as a reciprocal interchange of concepts and suggestions so that is one thing that flows between group members they’re exchanging concepts they’re providing one another suggestions suggestions that may be confirming and affirming and in addition suggestions that may be very difficult difficult to individuals’s methods of understanding themselves all of that’s encompassed in alternate so how does a coach foster alternate in a peer group teaching setting maintain the group that is like the straightforward reply proper create a holding atmosphere as a result of in case you set up the security the psychological security that is what persons are going to make use of the group for to alternate data to stumble upon new issues and to and to study you may assist group members replicate on and make sense of their studying because it evolves because it emerges proper what is going on on for you right here what are you selecting up on on this dialog what are you studying from this you may mannequin and encourage efficient suggestions and you may get out of the best way proper that is i feel you already know carrie talked in regards to the distinctions between one-on-one teaching and peer group teaching it is a large one as a result of in one-on-one teaching there’s simply you and the consumer proper it is it is a dialog between the 2 of you on this in peer group teaching it is a dialog between friends they’re those producing the concepts and speaking to one another and asking one another questions you are holding that you simply’re holding that house you need to form of take a step again as a coach observe restraint that may be tough for a few of us in case you’re in case you’re in the midst of all of it it may well’t it may well’t be as vibrant as it might be in case you get out of the best way the opposite perspective i mentioned i would usher in right here is uh yalum and lest who talked about group psychotherapeutic elements these are group primarily based elements of studying and alter i will not go over all of them however once more this actually good e-book in case you’re on this work learn these items it is wonderful universality is one that is the the um the expertise of being understood and the form of expertise that um uh that others can relate to your experiences you may relate to theirs there is a commonality between us proper that is one thing that may come up out of this sort of group altruism is just like the sense of satisfaction that simply comes from giving to different individuals freely giving with no expectation of reward cohesiveness is about um the affinity that group members begin to really feel for the group itself for the members of the group the group itself the work of the group it is a heat and affinity for the group itself and interpersonal studying is about observing one’s patterns and behaviors within the group as they unfold and with the ability to step again in actual time to to have a look at that to look at these behaviors as they’re unfolding to study from these um yeah so these are all various things which are nice advantages which are group-based elements of studying and alter okay so i feel yeah so we’ll pause there once more and see if any of you may have questions in regards to the analytic method to look group teaching there was a query raised by kate wanting to know the excellence within the analytical method to teaching and the way that is likely to be completely different than counseling and counseling yeah yeah nice query nice i feel once you learn um christine thornton’s writing you get the impression that they that it isn’t a really well-defined border you already know it is there’s some grey there proper and we all know as coaches that we um we have to refer shoppers to therapists when it is applicable however how can we decide when it is applicable and the place our work overlaps which is you already know in case you’re in case you’re taking this sort of method and training there can be some overlap proper as a result of the forms of belongings you’re speaking about listed here are uh are near these grey edges um i feel uh a technique that that i take into consideration this as a practitioner is as a coach i am in search of i do know that there are going to be occasions when individuals go have tough and unsettling feelings and must course of these i do know that i am going to be doing that work with individuals as a coach it will come up and i will be there you already know and i will deal with that competently what i am in search of is does that consumer can that consumer return to a spot of productiveness can the consumer return to a spot of motion can that consumer course of within the house that we’ve the time that we’ve the feelings they’re feeling and are available again to a spot of feeling empowered to behave if they will do this if they will do this work then more often than not they’re they’re within the teaching realm proper there that is teaching in the event that they’re battling that they usually’re saying they’re struggling and you may inform they’re struggling that is when it is time to to refer that is that is now the work of counseling um so i as for me that is form of what i’ve come to to know as a manner of discerning the 2 environments i’ve examined out different methods of fascinated by it just like the icf used to say that um you already know that teaching is for the properly inhabitants and counseling is for the unwell and that i discover that so horrifying that i i do not discover that to be a helpful reply so i do not know that i’ve the fitting reply however that is mine eric i feel constructing on what you simply mentioned brandon’s asking a very good query when you already know you are within the teaching house um how can we handle the absence and the way do you spotlight methods to create management inside the group in order that when the coach pulls away it does not diminish the standard of the work yeah yeah glorious glorious so uh so one factor about this sort of group teaching as as i am defining it’s that more often than not there can be a talented skilled facilitating the group so on this on this setting we might do that we might do a it may very well be a protracted may very well be a six month program the place the coaches is doing that and i feel on the finish of that six months the group would then finish proper this as it’s because it’s constructed as a pure peer group teaching program would finish um you could possibly have a bunch the place you the place the intention is to step away and the group retains assembly with out you after which the necessity to generate some management and i’d wish to see i’d wish to see teaching behaviors within the completely different group members i wish to see them producing the power to to carry this house can they will they begin to generate a holding atmosphere you already know as they watch us do it they study they study the behaviors that lead that create that security in order that they will have the conversations they’re having and in case you as a coach are shining a lightweight on these and inspiring them and serving to individuals perceive what they’re doing that is creating that atmosphere then they’re extra probably to have the ability to maintain it after you permit okay another method right here i am watching the clock so i am gonna march by way of another another lens the narrative collaborative lens that is uh that is an method developed by reinhard stelter and colleagues it is targeted on producing and making use of insights that come up by way of the method of shared that means making and there are three dimensions to this sort of observe it pulls from social constructionism and narrative psychology which i am going to speak about briefly right here in case you’re not acquainted with social constructionism it is the concept that means is created socially so by way of our interactions with one another we generate that means and the social actuality of teams like that is formed by the relationships of the group members narrative psychology then again is form of based on the concept human experiences are organized and made significant by way of storytelling so on this method we take these two issues and stick them collectively we’ve that means that is created socially and thru storytelling and this turns into form of the theoretical basis for this this technique of teaching the primary of the three dimensions as a spotlight and reflection on values what this implies is that we’re taking note of the values that underlie group members intentions needs aspirations you may consider this virtually being instead of a concentrate on objectives proper so the the um the organizing framework right here is not the consumer’s aim it is the values that underlie the issues that they want for and aspire to let us take a look at these values unpack them and perceive you already know the values which are at play for individuals um you are taking a look at how group members pondering emotions and actions hook up with their sense of self their identities proper in order that’s that values are the connection there that assist individuals begin to see themselves of their actions of their emotions of their pondering and a part of that is serving to to facilitate group members understanding of why and the way they’re the place they’re you already know um form of how did you come to be right here how did you come to interact with this specific problem what are the values that drove you into this this specific problem uh why are you right here why are you participating with this the second dimension from this attitude is offering alternatives in that means making that is actually serving to individuals perceive their methods of sensing pondering and performing within the group this occurs form of naturally by way of storytelling as group members speak about themselves about occasions of their lives about anticipated occasions you may um get a way of how they make that means of issues proper they’re doing that means making as they narrate their their tales so we’re cognizant of that we’re listening to the meanings that get produced and we’re serving to uh group members perceive how that that means is coming about proper we’re drawing their consideration to their methods of sensing and pondering and performing and the place that means is coming from and stelter mentioned that that means evolves from the interaction between motion sensing reflecting and talking in order that they’re taking motion within the group and out of doors of the group they’re sensing what is going on on for themselves and their friends they’re reflecting on all of that after which they’re speaking about it and in all of that assembly is generated in order a coach we’re drawing their consideration to all these completely different items and the third dimension right here is house for the unfolding of narratives from this attitude narratives carry coherence to human existence it is the story weaves collectively these completely different uh aspects of expertise right into a coherent complete one thing that is sensible within the group it is a social course of proper it is a shared that means making that occurs as individuals inform their tales after which the viewers type of participates within the story it validates the story issues begin to change into interrelated completely different individuals’s tales begin to overlap they begin to discover values that they share meanings that they share the group begins to develop a retailer of shared that means after which what can occur is that group members collaboratively begin to reinterpret difficult occasions and circumstances to reauthor these occasions and circumstances we’ll borrow the phrase from michael white narrative theorist uh we’re re-authoring these tales by way of collaboration with the group after which the group performs this actually important position of verifying or validating the brand new narrative proper virtually granting legitimacy or acknowledging the legitimacy of a newly shaped narrative so the group can play that position and the coach can maintain the house for it so the group coach’s position in narrative collaborative peer group teaching largely right here you are fascinated by collaborating with the group members and facilitating their collaboration all in service of important reflection that means era and the invention of recent narratives you are additionally serving to group members replicate on and make sense of their studying over time proper it modifications they you study one thing after which as you speak about it and also you go play with it out on the planet and then you definately come again and speak about it some extra the training itself evolves proper modifications type so a coach might help shine a lightweight on that may assist group members perceive how their studying is evolving over time okay let me simply pause there for for only a second and see if there are any questions on this attitude or the rest up thus far brandon has a query and it is it is type of going again to that teaching psychological well being divide which i feel all of us wrestle with as coaches um his query is have you considered the vocational vocational self-improvement standards when fascinated by divide and brandon if you would like to take your self off mute and add extra to that please be at liberty yeah i would love to listen to what you are pondering brandon yeah no i i’ve type of three roles i am i am a coach um and in addition a hypnotherapist and uh one of many struggles that we’ve in phrases and that i work largely in colleges with mindfulness so um the the challenges that we discovered additionally have been what are the what are these traces and looking for one thing that what’s your scope of observe you understand how does schooling and uh and training after which the elements that can be utilized in colleges like mindfulness um how would possibly that work and uh we have type of borrowed from hypnotherapy this vocational avocational self-improvement as a result of the identical type of mannequin you described uh gave the impression to be you already know very detrimental taking a look at psychological sickness or not psychological sickness yeah however simply uh you already know what what what are they desirous to do and on account of what they have been attempting to do um how would possibly that uh um uh play in reasonably than uh um you already know these these ways in which we’re looking for issues which are just a little bit problematic detrimental to the shoppers yeah yeah thanks brendan for articulating that i completely agree with you um it is attention-grabbing too that you simply have been speaking about colleges this so the research uh that underlies this narrative collaborative peer group teaching that uh stelter and colleagues wrote about uh was carried out in a highschool with elite highschool athletes um and it was designed to assist them um course of their experiences that the stress the expectations the laborious work that as elite as younger elite athletes they have been having to cope with frequently however in isolation proper and so um this research introduced teams of those excessive schoolers collectively to you already know to speak about their experiences for a lot of of them for the very first time proper you speak about vocation i imply they’re they’re envisioning their careers stretching out in entrance of them and there is all this strain to carry out now in order that so all the pieces works out for them um and they also used this as a solution to course of that they usually shaped not solely have been they in a position to you already know unpack a few of that and assist one another make sense of their tales and writer new ones however the behaviors that they they realized um they have been in a position to to carry exterior of the group so even even in highschool you already know the the um the jungle of highschool the social jungle that top college is these youngsters have been in a position to um to nonetheless present up for one another exterior the teaching group and you already know acknowledge one another and to carry a number of the distinctions from their teaching out into their life in highschool so all proper a little bit of a tangent however associated to what you have been mentioning brandon okay every other questions right here in narrative collaborative kathy has a remark i feel she’s agreeing it looks as if the coach would then pull in all of the theories as the brand new emerges by way of the narrative rising the generative dialogue and yeah kathy i invite you to take your self off mute if you would like so as to add extra yeah no you you mentioned it properly carrie i imply it simply looks as if you already know all three of those then can simply match and movement collectively if the coach is educated in all three theories so i am hoping you handle that at some stage as a result of that appears like that places the entire all of it collectively for them so far as of their new studying yeah thanks kathy um i i did decide these three views as a result of they do type of match collectively they they complement one another fairly properly um however let’s let’s discuss let’s positive sufficient this was the that is the place i used to be headed so kathy was an ideal segue to steer us to the following subsequent and last half right here which is how do we all know which lens to make use of proper how can we pull from these and use them successfully so if we have been in an ideal world proper we all know we’re not but when we have been in an ideal world we might know sufficient in regards to the teaching context uh the historic context the organizational context the relational context the emotional context we might know sufficient in regards to the context to have that information inform our selections of foundational information proper context would inform us that is what we have to know that is the foundational information that may illuminate this context proper narrative collaborative might help us illuminate and perceive this context higher after which primarily based on that foundational information the idea in an ideal world that might recommend sure levers to drag on sure buttons to press strategies to make use of as a coach proper in an ideal world it might movement this manner the place we might perceive the context we might you already know entry the foundational information after which do the teaching in actual life everyone knows it isn’t like that it is extra like we’re we’re within the session as a result of the consumer’s there and we’re dancing with the consumer and it is emergent and we’re trusting our instincts and self as instrument and we do stuff proper after which afterward we take into consideration you already know if we if we’ve a observe of fascinated by it which i realized in fielding uh we replicate after and take a look at what did i do in that session and what foundational information was i drawing from proper after which possibly we return once more to the teaching context and assume is there a greater supply of foundational information that may assist me perceive this teaching context extra deeply in order that i can discover different levers to make use of proper so in actuality it is it isn’t the sequential factor it is virtually extra like this sort of a factor the place we’re transferring backwards and forwards between these three domains of information and weaving all of them collectively and on this manner kathy proper to your query that is type of that is the place all these completely different views come collectively by way of the shop of foundational information we’ve below our belts that may that we are able to entry as a training context reveals itself over time and naturally the context modifications and evolves in order that is taking place we’re revisiting our foundational information pulling from the issues that we predict will work after which making use of the levers that come out of that that information that is really the topic of a e-book that i am engaged on with a colleague penny potter so hopefully this can be out someday i do not know sooner or later um however we are able to additionally take into consideration you already know even in all of that even within the backwards and forwards even within the the um form of mess of all of it attempting to combine these completely different uh classes of information it nonetheless comes right down to the context the context remains to be the factor that helps us navigate right here and it ought to assist us assist information us by way of our selections in regards to the information we use and the levers we apply so there are some issues we are able to take a look at this isn’t an exhaustive checklist however there are some issues that we are able to take a look at within the group teaching context to assist us take into consideration this proper one is how prepared are our our individuals our group members to interact within the type of double and triple studying that this sort of teaching requires are they prepared to try this are they prepared to have a look at their assumptions and look at them you already know are they’re they prepared to alter how they really feel about how they sense themselves proper uh what’s their tolerance for intimacy and threat you already know in case you’re getting the sense that this group is um you already know battling that or they are not prepared but to go to dive that deeply possibly the group mannequin is just a little bit extra accessible to them than you already know an analytic method proper cultural norms possibly the in case you’re doing this in a corporation you need to take into consideration what’s accepted habits how do individuals take into consideration that and you already know what is the um what are their norms round intimacy and threat and communication proper there is likely to be some limitations there particularly early on when the group is forming uh function focus expectations is that this what is that this about is that this about is the aim of this group to develop leaders or is it to resolve a particular drawback proper possibly the group mannequin would assist us clear up a particular drawback possibly if we’re growing leaders we wish to do a story collaborative method or draw from a few of that idea to assist them perceive their management journey proper so it actually relies on you already know what they’re anticipating to get out of it how we set that up as coaches how we contract the coaches ability stage with teams the the group mannequin is one which we are able to type of bounce into and not using a complete lot of further coaching we are able to it is so it is similar to the mannequin that is utilized in one-on-one teaching so it isn’t an enormous bounce to make that that leap over to doing that with a bunch however in case you’re new to working with teams to leap proper into analytic and analytic perspective or to leap proper right into a narrative collaborative perspective is likely to be tougher it is likely to be tougher to take action i feel all of this stuff are issues that you could think about as you are attempting to get a deal with on the context and select which idea or mixture of theories to work with timeline too group the group technique type of occurs uh one session at a time proper so you could possibly do this in a comparatively brief time-frame in case you’re serving to individuals re-author their significant tales about um you already know issues which are unfolding of their lives that is most likely going to take just a little longer proper it would take an extended is likely to be an extended timeline all issues to contemplate once we’re fascinated by context i can see um john requested about elaborating on double loop and triple reside studying so argoris chris argaris wrote about single and double loop studying after which hargrove wrote about triple loop studying and the double loop studying once more is studying that requires us to critically look at the assumptions the beliefs the values that underlie our behaviors so as a substitute of simply altering our habits let’s attempt one thing completely different that might be single with studying double loop studying we’re really going to have a look at uh the why you already know what’s beneath uh our motivations for performing the best way we did and left and discover these deeply and critically replicate on these use the group to replicate on them you already know with the intention to perceive one thing new about why we do what we do um after which that uh hopefully that information helps us generate new psychological fashions new possibly a shift in values or a shift within the underlying type of body that offers us the actions we take john i hope that is clear sufficient the triple loop studying um takes that one step additional and appears on the development of id the development of self who’s grappling with that second with that um double loop course of proper who’s that human being on the planet and who’re they being that permits them to try this studying that they are doing proper and may we are able to we alter that may we alter that may we discover ways in which the human being can evolve and our sense of self and who we’re on the planet can evolve okay uh i am not going to go there let’s pause once more and see what different questions i feel that is most likely a very good level to wrap it up after which simply ask what questions are nonetheless right here and whereas we’re speaking i will put this web page up so you may see a number of the references that i i talked about on this presentation all proper questions um a pair which are most likely possibly we might body and and i feel brandon brings up one and and i feel kate has introduced up one and what i see on this are distinctions and nuances sure there is a distinction between programs and group course of and understanding type of these our bodies of labor after which kate talked about you already know to be a very good group coach you most likely have to be grounded in some group course of and group dynamics which is one other physique of labor that might doubtlessly be very separate however related to teaching and and i feel that is the place these teaching and context webinars are available in is we’re not simply speaking about find out how to coach we’re going a lot deeper yeah into these expertise and definitions and i feel it is a good instance of that so i am going to allow you to reply to these distinctions yeah yeah i feel you already know to take one step again thanks kerry take one step again from that you already know it helps simply to remember what we’re attempting to do right here as evidence-based practitioners proper as scholar practitioners as information primarily based coaches proper the work that we’re attempting to do is to strengthen our understanding of the connections between idea and observe so we’re that’s our work proper with the intention to uh to change into higher coaches in what we do that is what we’re attempting to work on and so yeah a bunch course of undoubtedly yeah we must always perceive one thing about this this is the reason i’ve a sheet of references this is the reason um the best way i constructed this was to level to all of those theorists as a result of yeah it’s essential be grounded on this information that is the work that we’re doing that is what makes us evidence-based practitioners so yeah and brandon sure programs undoubtedly we acquired i i thought of whether or not we must always do a programs perspective right here too or weave that in however there’s solely a lot time subsequent time we’ll do programs properly i do know we solely have an hour left so i am gonna go forward and cease the reside recording um on fb we’ll proceed to document this session for an additional minute or two however i’d encourage anyone who’s sitting in a query if you would like to take your self off mute we are able to go a minute or two previous the hour you

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